The Trump Presidency- After the First 100 days

rancidpunk

There's nothing wrong with calling it what it is, a majority, rather than substituting it with emotional, verbose terminology.
Then again politics does seem to be increasingly distancing itself from English, seemingly at an exponential rate.

robel

"Saudi king agrees in call with Trump to support Syria, Yemen safe zones: White House"

Saudi king agrees in call with Trump to support Syria, Yemen safe zones: White House

Sonic67

A majority of people didn't vote for the EU either. As more people did vote to leave than to remain and that's how voting works then we are leaving. If you don't like that then you should have voted. It's not like this is some kind of secret. You don't vote you don't have a say.

Which reminds me of a BBC guy who was on the referendum campaign trail and spoke to lots of people and was interviewed for a documentary on Brexit afterwards. His view was of those who were for Brexit they were all strongly for Brexit. Adamant that we had to leave the EU. Of those who were for remaining the general consensus was that the EU had faults but remaining was better than leaving. One thing he never found was a single person who could be described as "loving EU membership" or loving being in the EU. Not one.

Which one is the EU? I'd say it was being shot in the head, or membership was like being kicked in the balls.

IronGiant

Please let's not turn this into another brexit thread: Thanks.

robel

Trump and SA agree to safe zones for refugees as per my earlier post....

Cliff

Its a 'very nice idea'. And I go along with Arab/Muslim States trying to solve the problems of extremism and stopping the flow of migrants out of unstable areas. Setting up safe zones would be seen as getting their own house in order and reducing migration.

The problem is that the 'Gary Linekers and Lily Allens' and some of the posters here conveniently seem to forget that there is little neutrality in the Muslim world.  Democracy is rare and does not sit well with Islam. There is an on going struggle- the west is sometimes involved, usually in the middle, and makes makes well meaning decisions and alliances that in retrospect make things worse!
Remove the West and there will still be struggle - either over Islamic ideology or struggles against its leaders or setting up an Islamic state- ISIS.
For sure the West cannot, and should not be expected to absorb millions of people who cannot live in their own part of the world. A few refugees was always OK, but we are seeing wholesale movements of populations to Europe and the US.

The solution should be found in these countries, so people stay. Most Syrian's I know want to stay in their country. The same for Iraqis.

Safe zones sound good but that very much depends who is running them?

Pacifico

I would agree with that but given the historical religious disputes in the region I'm not sure that is all all feasible - you have to remember that Syria and Iraq are fairly new constructs - the disputes between the religions have been going on for many centuries.

robel

I did post this in the Syria thread on Sunday night. Dont know if you saw it or have heard about it?

Rumours, truth or fake news......

"France’s Le Point, speculated that Assad might have been assassinated by his personal Iranian Bodyguard Mehdi al-Yaacoubi, going so far as to say that he shot him in the head."

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/med...-Assad-suffering-a-stroke-has-gone-viral.html

Regarding the Mid East, i agree and i know you know from living there...I have also lost a friend through terrorism (Pan Am), so its most certainly a damned if you do and a damned if you dont scenario....

Toko Black

My fundamental argument is not about any specific election, be it on the EU, Brexit or the US election of Trump.
It is about the usage of common phrases, generalisation and simplications in political discourse and rhetoric that end up being taken for granted or at face value rather than what they really are.

I am using that argument to highlight the misuse or erroneous belief that some people have in making assertions about the US Election of Trump as President.

The winner of an election is simply the winner of an election.
If the election is the process for determining who is in charge, then they are in charge.

It does not automatically follow that is what a majority of people wanted or supported.
It can represent a majority of people, but it rarely does and certainly doesn't represent the diverse strengths of feeling or desires of any individuals or groups on the myriad of issues grouped up into a simple, single A or B choice.

Cliff

No idea if its true or not. But we are aware of it! The same thing was said about the President of Nigeria. Fake news.
Nigerian President Muhammadu Buhari dies in London