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26-11-2019 02:18:30 Mobile | Show all posts
Ah ok, now it makes sense.

So, as above, you're not bothered about the financial implications (and are agreeing that the predictions could be correct, at least in part) but will feel better because we're not in the EU.  My only concern with that is that a good feeling doesn't pay my mortgage.
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26-11-2019 02:18:30 Mobile | Show all posts
As has been said before, it was a big thing before the vote that we'd be worse off.

We were all told the same in a propaganda booklet.

Those who wanted to leave thought "fine" and voted to leave anyway. That at least shows how big leaving the EU was for some.

"Leave and you'll be worse off."

"Still want to leave."

Can I suggest if the economy was your sole issue you should have voted to remain.
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26-11-2019 02:18:30 Mobile | Show all posts
Lots of people who voted leave didn't understand any of the complexities as they weren't specified on the ballot paper

My mother voted leave and now watches the news every day with all the issues that come up and always says she didn't vote for that particular thing to happen as it was never mentioned

Only thing she saw was Boris Johnson's red bus with 350 million paid into the NHS every week which turned out to be rubbish
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26-11-2019 02:18:30 Mobile | Show all posts
Your mother was gullible as were many remainers too.
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26-11-2019 02:18:31 Mobile | Show all posts
You will still be better off, so if your mortgage can be paid today then it can be paid tomorrow...Whether you should now get that extra big mortgage, perhaps not.
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26-11-2019 02:18:31 Mobile | Show all posts
How many voted remain because they were told unemployment would rise 500k? Or there would be an immediate recession? Or a punishment budget?
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26-11-2019 02:18:31 Mobile | Show all posts
Taking it at face value, you know that then works both ways

I'm sure there will be some who voted leave that weren't aware of what it meant, just like there were some who voted remain that weren't aware of what it meant. A great example that really stuck with me, since I was very close to that detail, is that our security would be compromised as we don't have access to EIS. Which is simply not true.
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26-11-2019 02:18:31 Mobile | Show all posts
And another great example...

You see @z5461313 it works both ways. The distribution of outliers either side will cancel each other out...
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26-11-2019 02:18:32 Mobile | Show all posts
The economy wasn't my sole reason but I did vote to Remain.

For me personally, there is an inherent risk of impact as the global company I work for are Anglo-Dutch and have shared corporate entities in London/Rotterdam.  Since the Brexit vote, we have already been advised internally that the company is looking at all options (obviously) and they include the possibility of shifting more of the responsibilities to the Rotterdam entity to remain within the EU for financial reasons.  Whilst that decision is clearly out of my hands, if a company with a 65 billion Euro turnover last year is looking at the options surrounding a change to their 125 year split-country history then many smaller companies may feel the concerns even more.

Whilst I'm not planning on building any extensions in the coming few years, the uncertainty surrounding any large change is always a concern. Obviously these concerns are balanced against benefits by many people but I'm not sure we should really be so flippant to write off negative impact to the wider economy in return for the idea that the UK Government is somehow more accountable to the average voter as a result.  Contrary to some posts here, we've always been able to vote out the current Government during General Elections, regardless of the being in or out of the EU.
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26-11-2019 02:18:33 Mobile | Show all posts
Sorry if it was vague but yes, that's exactly what I was referring to.  I understand that we can't directly vote on the EU but there seems to be an assumption that we will somehow gain new abilities to have control over our Government through elections, which we already do?

I'm still working through the actual benefits to leaving if we're all now in some sort of agreement that the economy won't be better off ("Let's fund the NHS instead" etc etc)
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