Insects as food ?

karkus30

What are you gonna do about the bees then ?

Here's how it works. Animal feed gets expensive and the cost of keeping animals rises. The price rises on the market place. Fewer people can afford the new high priced meat and that opens the door to insect farmers and other new foods and we eat those instead. Man, I remember a time when rice and pasta were just weird foods that people sniffed at before moving on to the potato bins.

If we have less food, then we begin to stop having so many children ( unless the state is still sponsoring children production by subsidies ).

In the end there is every chance we will go the way of the dinosaur. Everyone of us here will be brown bread inside 100 years maximum and most of us a long way before then. You can only do what you can and leave the big things to themselves while you get on with living your life.

sidicks

abhors ?

IronGiant

Somewhat surprisingly, adores fits quite well too

Although I suspect it was just a simple case of a predictive text typo.

EarthRod

From what I've seen in Africa the less food there is the more children produced - the birth rate goes up in proportion to starvation levels. High rate of infant mortality of course.

I think its a survival mechanism.

Trollslayer

What if it was that or Quorn?

IronGiant

Indeed, we are genetically driven to produce enough children to survive us.

This has progressively dropped from the 12 to 17 in the Victorian Age to the 2.5 we had until very recently when it became profitable for some to make babies to get extra benefits. Although I have no idea to what extent the figures have changed.

IronGiant

I've cooked with Quorn and it's not that bad, and morally, I would be happy to survive on it for the common good.

Not sure if I'd enjoy it as a lifetime diet though...

Ed Selley

Quorn mince is surprisingly good- I've actually cooked some pretty decent things with it although it reheats terribly. The rest of  their product range is less appealing though. Ultimately, I generally cook vegetarian dishes with vegetables.

pragmatic

At some point it becomes quality over quantity, if only 1 or 2 are expected to survive to the age of procreation out of 10-20 then have 10-20, if every single one is going to survive then 1-2 are enough.

We're driven by our genes to pass them on, at some point its not about survival but attracting a mate (almost de-facto getting a mate if only a few people survive a family from every generation)  and then the best mate (health, wealth and intelligence).  Our genes are playing the long game at times

karkus30

I was talking about the West. In most of Africa when they want meat they go and hunt some.

Its interesting though that they conceive so many children. It also makes me wonder why I have never had any intention of having any. I would apply Mises treatise to that decision as an economic trade. It should apply equally to the Africans. It must be a better trade to have kids than to have food. Makes sense in a village when more hunters mean more food. Its a trade off, but we know that in the West that the number of people eventually created greater abundance.