Author: Stuart Wright

If Labour promises a new EU referendum, would you vote for them?

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26-11-2019 01:16:30 Mobile | Show all posts
definitely not - the country had it's chance - it's not a repeat until certain people get the answer they want.

Anyway, article 50 is triggered and the process cannot be stopped in theory, you can be sure if people tried to stop it then the brexit people would be getting the courts involved as opposed to the remain people this time around.

People need to accept the democratic result and move forwards.
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26-11-2019 01:16:30 Mobile | Show all posts
It's an interesting question if you stop and think about the consequences of everybody else voting the same way that you do.

If you're a Labour voter who voted for Brexit, option 1 is fine as you get the government that you want, and a 2nd EU referendum which you'd be expecting to win anyway.

If you're a Tory voted who voted Remain, option 2 gives you a govt that you will probably hate, just in order to have a 2nd referendum which you will probably lose anyway.


When you consider that some of the strongest brexit votes came from traditional Labour heartlands it would be an interesting sociological experiment were Labour to do this, but ultimately a futile and stupid experiment which would destroy the party.
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26-11-2019 01:16:30 Mobile | Show all posts
This is interesting:

Corbyn will not back second EU referendum

GE 2017: Corbyn will not back second EU referendum after confusion on stance
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26-11-2019 01:16:30 Mobile | Show all posts
Asked by Sky News correspondent Tamara Cohen whether the party would give voters a say on the final Brexit agreement, Mr Corbyn failed to give a straight answer.

When asked afterwards to clarify the Labour leadership's position, shadow chancellor John McDonnell refused to answer the question 10 times.


The saddest indictment of the current Labour party is that nobody, anywhere, will find either of those sentences even slightly surprising.
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26-11-2019 01:16:30 Mobile | Show all posts
As things stand a second referendum is a non starter. However until we know what the Brexit deal is and it's possible consequences we can't rule out a second referendum as a possible political choice to avoid a General Election if there is sufficient public discontent with the deal in the polls. Or if the Tory Party becomes bitterly divided over the Brexit Deal making a general election a pointless exercise, then a second referendum makes more sense aka "It's the Will of the People" etc.
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26-11-2019 01:16:31 Mobile | Show all posts
Complete non starter. The idea of a second referendum is so 'you got the answer wrong try again'.

Actually, I personally think the leave result would be a lot stronger, only because we were promised Armageddon the day after if we voted leave and that clearly didn't happen. In fact the country is doing rather well so far (I know we haven't left yet...) .

As for Labour, their supporters are probably 50/ 50 as regards to the EU anyway. So why would they make a point of upsetting half their voter base? Far better to complain about the Tories.
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26-11-2019 01:16:31 Mobile | Show all posts
How long should we have to wait for another referendum?
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26-11-2019 01:16:31 Mobile | Show all posts
40 years, like last time would be good
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26-11-2019 01:16:31 Mobile | Show all posts
That was for a different thing though.

It makes a mockery of the 2016 referendum if it was a 'one-off'. It makes perfect sense (if we're going down the Anti-parliament route of referenda in the first place) to have another one once the deal has been agreed.
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26-11-2019 01:16:32 Mobile | Show all posts
I think this thread died on it's feet when Labour announced they were misunderstood and have no intention of calling for a another referendum.
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