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Boris Johnson - Indictment for Misconduct in Public Office

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26-11-2019 01:04:52 Mobile | Show all posts
The same argument has been put forward by Johnson’s defence according to the court documentation released;

“It is submitted that the facts alleged by the Applicant do not come close to establishing a qualifying breach of duty. None of the acts complained of took place in the course of Mr Johnson's direct parliamentary or mayoral duties, but in the course of political campaigning. In no case is there the slightest connection between the statistic in issue and Mr Johnson's public duties, and at no point is it alleged that he had, or claimed to have, any special knowledge or authority in relation to them. There is no trace in the allegation of the abuse of the powers of the office, of corruption or of any dishonest motive. The motive alleged is that, like all those involved in any form of political debate, Mr Johnson sought to present the publicly available facts in a manner which supported the position he wished to advance.

The Applicant complains that in doing so, Mr Johnson "failed to check the accuracy of that which he chose to advance", or that he presented the statistics in a manner which, by reason of the use of a gross figure when a net figure was called for, was misleading and wrong. These are common complaints, the kinds of complaints which are the proper substance of political debate, public contradiction and the judgment of the electorate, all of which ensued in this instance.

If there were some genuine element of impropriety, the conduct would presumably merit investigation by the bodies charged with the maintenance of the standards of the office holder, here the Greater London Authority and the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards. The latter of course is responsible for ensuring compliance with the very Code of Conduct upon which the Applicant now relies. The Applicant has made no such complaints.”


The response from the Judge is that holding public office comes with “influence and authority”

42. I do not accept those submissions for the purpose of considering whether there is prima facie evidence of this aspect of the offence. I accept that the public offices held by Mr. Johnson provide status but with that status comes influence and authority.

43. I am satisfied there is sufficient to establish prima facie evidence of an issue to be determined at trial of this aspect. I consider the arguments put forward on behalf of the proposed defendant to be trial issues.


It’s going to be interesting what kind of precedent this case sets.  As for other politicians being called into account for equal (alleged) misuse of demonstrable facts, I fully agree.  If we don’t expect politicians campaigning for our support to be truthful with actual facts, what else are we happy for them to lie about?
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26-11-2019 01:04:52 Mobile | Show all posts
Agreed. It’s not dissimilar to what cross border settlements do, nor banking obligations. The money never actually changes bank accounts, it’s just a number on a “spreadsheet” (as a figure of speech before anyone starts nitpicking) that changes.

I think many a commenting on matters where they don’t get the concepts of how it actually works. I’m gobsmacked it gets to an investigation or whatever this is.
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26-11-2019 01:04:52 Mobile | Show all posts
So, just to clarify, are you saying that the £350m is a figure on a “spreadsheet” and never actually changes bank accounts, or are you suggesting that the UK doesn’t send anything?

The court papers suggest that the Judge feels there’s a case to answer, maybe they don’t get the concept either?

“The actual amount that moves is £250m but that’s a separate issue”.

I’m still trying to figure out how that’s a separate issue when it’s exactly what the case is about.  Being that the ‘actual amount’ we ‘send’ to the EU is £250m but the bus, and Johnson, paraded the inflated £350m figure
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26-11-2019 01:04:53 Mobile | Show all posts
Your wording is deft but telling as you don't expect MPs to be truefull with actual facts but will go afte the one who lies and you can go after. Is this not a biased approach based of your own political leanings?
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26-11-2019 01:04:53 Mobile | Show all posts
The **** certainly should be permanently barred from public office over Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe. He rendered himself totally unsuitable for any position of responsibility with that egregious act. I expect legal action when the matter ends (hopefully a happy ending).
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26-11-2019 01:04:53 Mobile | Show all posts
How have you come to that conclusion from my post that said;
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26-11-2019 01:04:53 Mobile | Show all posts
I cant see this trivial nonsense getting much further through the Court system - although in some ways I do hope it is successful.

If Boris is convicted of lying then thats precedent for 650 current MP's and god knows how many former ones being hauled up in court - it will be hilarious..
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26-11-2019 01:04:53 Mobile | Show all posts
I bets ya Boris will not get The PM pl job because of this.

Tell ya what.

Avatar bet . Bit of fun.

If Boris does not become PM I have a Trump Avatar of your choosing for six months .

Any one else as Conservative PM and I give you a nice Hilary Avatar.

Good luck in that self serving British way .
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26-11-2019 01:04:53 Mobile | Show all posts
Bet agreed.

Let the best man win..
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26-11-2019 01:04:53 Mobile | Show all posts
Yup he doesn’t get either than, or perhaps is motivated in other ways. It’s a pretty standard concept applied nationally and internationally.
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