Chris Davies out - New by-election.

sebbykin

Their GE / Brexit (scupper the Tories)  plan has backfired.

Sonic67

32 months on. Can you tell what he says the Brexit position is? And he's a Labour candidate. What chance does anyone else have?

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gamerste

They said that last time

Sonic67

Fine, why won't they come out as a remain party then?

LM1405

Did there? Was TBP about then? Labour at the time said we would leave the EU. What has happened to Labour votes at the last few by elections?

gamerste

Because a democratic vote took place and as I keep saying lots of labour voters voted to leave.
There is so much marginalising different people already in this country.
A no deal Brexit would decimate this country and bring it to its knees.
You only have to look at the pound at this moment to see how it's all going to go.
So come out as a full remain party marginalises 26%of labour voters and the 14million people who voted for Brexit.
When I ask leave voters why they voted leave and what do they want to see happen,the vast majority of them can't tell me why.
The most things people say are make our own rules (er which we already do)
Immigration ok fair enough but net migration is at a defecit.
Immigration has a positive influence on our economy.

gamerste

By elections are by elections MEP elections are exactly that.
Let's have a GE and be down with it.
It's the only way to settle the impass now.

May went for a GE as she believed she would walk a GE that never happened.
The Labour vote was a shock to most they never thought he would get that many seats.
Don't believe the negativity around JC he is very popular.
If he was that bad as the media portray him then Boris would of already called an election.

Tories do what Tories have always done cling on to power at all costs

LM1405

I see you do what typical Labour/remain voters do. Labour do not want a GE, their current standing is going through the floor.

JC is not popular at all, maybe with momentum, but with everyday Labour party members he's not. My local Labour Party has already lost over 50% of its members due to JC and the Labour Parties Brexit stance.

I would welcome a GE tomorrow, my money would not be on JC & the Labour Party that's for sure.

gamerste

Whats a typical labour/remain voter.
I'm happy to leave with a deal that protects workers rights the good Friday deal and something that doesn't trash the economy.
I did vote remain however I see the democratic vote even if I don't think the vote was that democratic.
The leave campaign was full to the brim of lies and more lies.
So not very democratic.
If 50% of your local labour party believe the rhetoric then that's fine.

LM1405

Workers rights, we brought in rights before the EU and our rights are more protected than the EU's.

The vote was not democratic? 1 person one vote that's democracy. So remain was full of the fairy godmother get real. Believe what rhetoric? That the Labour and its leadership are anti-Semite, the Labour does not care about its core vote and is only interested in momentum.