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22-11-2019 04:50:59 Mobile | Show all posts
Hi,

Although I am a Pacquiao fan I absolutely agree with you - Marquez is pure class & heart. I too believe he deserves way more credit than has been given.

I think he is one of the very few fighters that can read Pacquiao very well & do something amazing - actually adapt in the fight itself to Pacquiao's changes - Marquez is an awesome fighter & a very decent guy outside the ring!

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22-11-2019 04:50:59 Mobile | Show all posts
Hi,

He very well might - like I said before, I feel he is one of the very few fighters that Pacquaio has real trouble with & if Pacquiao's stance is going to be to come forward all the way with an attack, attack, attack approach - it might not work - Marquez can take a lot of punishment & is a great counter puncher!

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 Author| 22-11-2019 04:51:00 Mobile | Show all posts
Marquez is a quality counter puncher
Guarantee it to be a war
Guerrero vs berto good fight berto didn't stand much of a chance
Think the failed drugs test had a part to play
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22-11-2019 04:51:00 Mobile | Show all posts
I used to run the old Hatton forum and broke the story of the comeback earlier this year after a friend in the know said he'd gone to Italy under the pretence of a holiday, but was actually doing some training out there to shift the weight.

When I heard he was going straight in with a 10-rounder I was surprised, given Erik Morales looked atrocious in his comeback after 3 years out against a journeyman. He eventually put a few wins together, pushing Maidana close and doing better than Khan against Garcia.

But whilst Erik kept his hand in at the gym, Ricky did little except balloon and drink. Recruiting Bob Shannon was also slightly short sighted given he couldn't compare Ricky today and Ricky from 3  years ago. They should have got Lee Beard back involved because he's not a yes-man and would have told him straight. He would also have seen what's missing that Ricky had previously.

The timing, sloppiness and just the way he followed Senchenko round the ring, instead of cutting him off, getting in range and unloading showed he was trying to fight on memory and had basically not learned anything in camp about who he used to be.

He should have done 6-rds unannounced on an undercard, to avoid the crowds and should have had lee beard as trainer. Then he might have been more polished. Regardless I think it's better he was beaten now - than against a true world class puncher at welter, because he'd have gotten destroyed.

He was never a welter.
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22-11-2019 04:51:00 Mobile | Show all posts
I thought he was mad coming back but to comeback and jump in at the deep end without a few low key warm up fights was even madder. That makes me think money was definitely a factor, surely Hatton could have fought a lesser opponent and worked out if he still had it. Who knows after getting rid of the ring rust he might have beaten Senchenko.
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22-11-2019 04:51:00 Mobile | Show all posts
Hi,

I too have a feeling that after the defeats to Mayweather & Pacquaio & Ricky's comeback approach was probably more a case of pride over pragmatism - he wanted to prove way too much too quickly & thought by jumping straight in at the deep end, the magic would somehow just comeback.

I know this sounds very cruel but Ricky did not do his body any favours by the toil he put it through when he retired - I fully understand why though - he was in a deep. dark & painful place. Having said that, I really admire the way he does not cherry pick fights, does not duck opponents nor make excuses or blame anyone/anything else. He will always be one of this country's best boxing Champions.

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 Author| 22-11-2019 04:51:00 Mobile | Show all posts
^agreed
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22-11-2019 04:51:00 Mobile | Show all posts
Hi,

Damn, Marquez has really bulked up for this fight & has got some in the boxing circles wondering.

I see him taking this fight to be honest - he just looks way too strong & a counterpunch from his new form would knock out any fighter including Pacquiao. Only questions are how it affects his speed & stamina over 12 rounds if it goes that far.

Manny should never have taken this fight - if he wins, everyone will say, so what - nothing different to what we have all known on 3 previous occasions & does not exactly elevate Manny further than he already is. It would be an absolute disaster for him if Marquez won though as he will go backwards in my view while Marquez would have been seen to vindicated. Any fight with Mayweather would be even further out of reach than it already is. Bad move Manny & I think Marquez will win this.

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 Author| 22-11-2019 04:51:01 Mobile | Show all posts
War Marquez

Flintoff fighting tonight

Cotto tomorrow night

Flintoff looks In great shape now
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 Author| 22-11-2019 04:51:01 Mobile | Show all posts
doesn't get any easier for Pryce second round win
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