nheather
Publish time 26-11-2019 02:04:25
Yes I guess it heavily depends on what the school/department is like as to whether you are aware of anyone not being incremented - my wife says she knows it is not automatic but doesn't know of anyone that hasn't got it - her school is rated 'Outstanding' so maybe it is a culture thing.And as you say, getting rid of an under-performer is a double-edged sword - you have removed one problem but with no replacements you end up with supply teacher or stretching the remaining teachers.
Cheers,
Nigel
rustybin
Publish time 26-11-2019 02:04:26
If the school is rated outstanding it suggests the outcomes for the children are good / outstanding, therefore the teaching (and therefore the teachers) are good / outstanding. So they should all increment.
To be outstanding a school would also have to have outstanding / good Leadership and Management (it isn't possible to get outstanding without this), which would mean under-performing teachers would be 'managed' very effectively one way or another, therefore it wouldn't ever come to a teacher not incrementing.
domtheone
Publish time 26-11-2019 02:04:27
Easy
Who'd be a teacher when kids have so much power these days?
Seems you can't smack them/shout at them, etc etc etc and they just run amok.
So many seem to be so ill mannered too (as is more of society these days).
Nightmare job.
Gloriously simplifying things but I don't think it's a very appealing job these days.
Pecker
Publish time 26-11-2019 02:04:28
Oh no, no, no.
I wish I could sit you down with a GCSE RS text book.Just the scale of the amount you have to learn in 2 years is daunting.
Every tried teaching a mixed-ability group how to evaluate different attitudes to the Trinity?Or a class where 25% of the students have English as a second language, but speak 4 different languages between them, and try to explain the controversy over transubstantiation?
How are you with evaluating the importance of different aspects of Allah's characteristics?
Homework policies are usually school-wide, and based on how many lessons you have in a week, so if someone is doing GCSEs in the EBacc subjects of French and geography as well as RS, and each is taught for 3 hours a week, they'll get the same amount of homework.Same number of assessments, usually once a half term, always moderated.
Workload in and out of school for those three subjects will be identical, as will scrutiny and pressure for results.All are measured by the same government Progress 8 performance measure - it's calculation across all non-core subjects is identical.English and maths are the odd ones out, as their results are double-weighted, but all other subjects have the same standard.
The biggest difference is that the smaller your subject the less support you'll get.Less people in your school/academy/trust/LA on hand to support.Less hours of support from extra staff.No drop-down days to catch up if things are a bit behind.
Another difference is that English, maths and (usually) science groups are almost always in ability sets, whilst all other subjects are mixed ability.
As for unified pay scales, you're having a laugh.They've gone.Academies can pay what they like.
I'm sure you'll be happy that I've set the record straight with a few facts.
nheather
Publish time 26-11-2019 02:04:28
Okay that was quite agressive.
I tried not to name names but this is what was going through my head -the workload of secondary school PE Teachers is much much lighter than the workload of secondary school Maths teachers.
If you disagree, I’d like to understand why.
Cheers,
Nigel
IronGiant
Publish time 26-11-2019 02:04:29
Not really.
Your wife is a Maths Teacher and you have stuck her on pedestal.
Lots of teachers in other subjects work just as hard if not harder.PE teachers are an easy target, but a good one will be running lunchtime, after school and weekend activities.
My sister in law teaches foreign languages so there are weekend and summer holiday trips to cover, not a freebie as I'm sure you can understand.
Cliff
Publish time 26-11-2019 02:04:29
And.. as a teacher you can be suspended if a child makes an malicious accusation against you. Even if it is investigated and you are found to be wrongly accused, I doubt things will ever be the same.
nabby
Publish time 26-11-2019 02:04:29
Spoken as a parent, I assume? data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7
nabby
Publish time 26-11-2019 02:04:29
Now this is an issue of concern.But look at the thread on child abuse and tell me which is the lesser of two evils...police and social workers ignoring children when they say they're being abused or investigating allegations made by children?
rustybin
Publish time 26-11-2019 02:04:30
The same applies to pretty much anyone in any job.
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