weaviemx5 Publish time 26-11-2019 01:52:58

I'm not sure I understand the second apart of your post about their voices being heard?

domtheone Publish time 26-11-2019 01:52:58

PS Wages seem to be in the spotlight a lot more of the time than Private S wages.

Now that's entirely to be expected but at least it draws more attention to the cause.

If you work for say a small/medium size private firm, it's just you and the boss.I don't have the BBC/Tabloids to push my case.

domtheone Publish time 26-11-2019 01:52:58

And hey, we've not even got onto pensions yetdata:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7

Pecker Publish time 26-11-2019 01:52:58

Yes, I just added the annual figures.Sorry it ended a bit muddled, but there was a lot to get through. data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7

Not completely accurate, but a good ballpark.

Bottom line, there's a crisis in teaching about a shortage of teachers* and this is only going to make matters worse, even in what is a 'good' year.

* Of course, there isn't a shortage as such.There are plenty of teachers, they're just not working in teaching.

I'm currently facing redundancy, despite having years of experience and getting some of the best results in the school.A mixture of 'old and expensive', coupled with curriculum changes caused by government policy and a drive to streamline.

The bottom line is that having quality staff teaching what is needed to be taught is playing second fiddle to clawing back money.

ashenfie Publish time 26-11-2019 01:52:59

Not relative to the cost of living. Private sector work supply and demand vary far more widely between areas. Which makes sense. A start flat in Bolton would be 140k and transport cheap and relatively easy. A starter flat in London is more like 500k. And transport expensive.
Better wage distribution would improve life styles and make better use. Use of available money.

Pecker Publish time 26-11-2019 01:52:59

That's because average wage increase in the private sector have kept pace with inflation (stood still in real terms) since 2010, whilst public sector wage rises have fallen behind.

Pacifico Publish time 26-11-2019 01:52:59

Is there a problem with recruitment and retention? - that is the only thing that determines whether you should have a payrise above inflation. It is a market after all.

Pacifico Publish time 26-11-2019 01:52:59

That is only becuase Private Sector wages fell duringthe financial crisis whilst Public Sector wages were protected.

In recent years private sector pay has been growing faster than public sector pay.

Part of this effect has been to catch up with the period around 2009, when, as a result of the financial crisis, private sector average earnings fell substantially, while public sector earnings were much more resilient. During that period the gap between public and private sector earnings grew.

Reality Check: Is public sector pay higher than private?

weaviemx5 Publish time 26-11-2019 01:52:59

Old article but the first in a search;

NHS nurse shortage forces health service to recruit overseas

One of the major differences, and something I only discovered after meeting my wife, was that most people who work in the health sector do so because they actually want to help people.As a result, Nurses won't go on strike and leave patients stranded so this caring attitude is used to give them bad working conditions and unfair pay for as long as possible. The same could be said for teachers going by the posts above as again, it's a profession built on the care of other people rather than themselves.

weaviemx5 Publish time 26-11-2019 01:53:00

NHS staff shortages: Why so persistent?
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