Cliff Publish time 26-11-2019 00:25:01

London’s murder rate continues upwards

We are at sixty deaths so far, with four people killed over the weekend.
Our mayor is supposed to introducing measures to curtail the senseless deaths. But so far he is continuing his war of words with the man over the other side of the pond instead. Why doesn’t he come up with some initiatives?
What’s going on?
London's murder toll hits 60: Man in his 40s is found stabbed to death | Daily Mail Online

EarthRod Publish time 26-11-2019 00:25:02

This might be of interest:

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Notice the peak in 2003.

robel Publish time 26-11-2019 00:25:02

Its always good to have a target....

Toko Black Publish time 26-11-2019 00:25:04

If people are looking to blame London Mayors for the murder rates, instead of say the government for cutting the police forces, cutting services and funding for youths and social services etc ... then Boris isn't exactly a shining example.

Upwards trend when Livingstone took over, but within a few years it started to decline on a downwards trend.
Johnson took over in a downwards trend from Livingstone and left with an upward trend.
Khan took over during an upwards trend from Johnson.

Considering it takes at least a couple of years of policy to take any real effect, Johnson took over @ 148 but his policies really just carried on the trend till 2010 where they had an effect if any @ 123.
Considering Johnson left in 2016 and any policy Khan had would have not effected things to 2018, Johnson left @ 130.

So that's not only from a downwards trend to an upwards one, but arguably at a higher rate than he effectively had any impact upon things.

Therefore either it appears that it's only a Mayors fault if he happens to be Labour, the son of Pakistani immigrants and a muslim ... or it's not really the Mayors fault and has far more to do with a combination of Governmental policy on under funding and cutting services and budgets and the violent crime that is a fallout from the war on drugs and the vast sums of money criminal gangs are willing to kill over.

springtide Publish time 26-11-2019 00:25:04

It would be interesting to look at the above graph and compare it with police numbers at the time as this comparison keeps being mentioned in London

I found this graph from here:
Police officer numbers in England and Wales

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I’m guessing if there is a link as police numbers drop you’d the numbers rise after a delay.

Anyone know for any links for the Met police numbers?

But I’m sure it’s just not # that is causing the issue, you’d need to look at the type of crime and secondary crimes etc

“Stop and search “ under Boris.. this was obviously a change of policy, so was any research performed to its effectiveness?

robel Publish time 26-11-2019 00:25:05

This is an interesting page....i dont think its political or racist but if im wrong you can tell me...

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Sonic67 Publish time 26-11-2019 00:25:06

Delivery driver being robbed in London.

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robel Publish time 26-11-2019 00:25:07

You might want to check your link

Sonic67 Publish time 26-11-2019 00:25:08

Think this is it.

EarthRod Publish time 26-11-2019 00:25:09

The fact is - 2003 the deaths peaked at 204, then year on year it decreased until 2014 when it peaked at 83 deaths before increasing again.

The factual information is there to 'use' as you wish.
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