gibbsy Publish time 24-11-2019 23:20:31

A salutary lesson. The owners were prosecuted.

Girl aged 23 months killed after runaway Range Rover rolls down hill

Ste7en Publish time 24-11-2019 23:20:31

Oh, I have no doubt how serious it could have been (let's face it, it is an out of control driverless car).

As I've already said, I clear our driveway more than anyone else on the entire estate. If I'm out I can't clear it though. We came back in the middle of a storm and went indoors (leukaemia and an almost zero immune system tends to make you not want to clear a drive in horizontal sleet in the pitch black and freezing wind).

All season tyres booked for fitting after Christmas.

larkone Publish time 24-11-2019 23:20:31

Warm engine and potentially warm tyres will cause the surface of any ice/snow to melt between the tyres and solid ground when you park - water on ice is nearly as slippery as teflon. Need to clear the ice/snow on any slope or you are risk of it sliding - simples

nvingo Publish time 24-11-2019 23:20:32

Ah, so slippage is much more likely just after parking on the slope than at any other time?

outoftheknow Publish time 24-11-2019 23:20:32

I haven’t looked for a link but a driver was killed here in Oz today by his own car. Got out and went round the front and it slipped down a bank and ran him over. Carried on into a ditch..

No snow (it’s summer here and 30 degrees), this one was mud after rain I believe - so it is just something to be aware of on anything other than dry and clean tarmac I guess

Ste7en Publish time 24-11-2019 23:20:32

Yep, and as I've said I always do this. This was an exception. That night was particularly bad. I have a mate who was out on his mountain bike and when the rain hit his handlebars it froze immediately.

Bl4ckGryph0n Publish time 24-11-2019 23:20:32

There you go then data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7 You can cancel the new tyres. Just clear the driveway. Job done and it is gratis data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7

ChuckMountain Publish time 24-11-2019 23:20:32

Winter tyres are not particularly better on pure ice, what you need is studded tyres in that case.Unfortunately, last time I looked they were illegal in the UK data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7

Ste7en Publish time 24-11-2019 23:20:32

I wish. Doesn't help much when you are driving around though data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7

RBZ5416 Publish time 24-11-2019 23:20:32

Sounds like the same conditions that caused chaos on the M11 back in 2003. Freshly compacted snow freezing immediately to ice. Possibly a bit extreme but you could consider a ground anchor for securing motorbikes & a cable to clip onto the towing eye.
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