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3-12-2019 00:52:27 Mobile | Show all posts
Possibly because there are no options for "I want to leave with a different deal and am most opposed to X, Y or Z." ?
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3-12-2019 00:52:28 Mobile | Show all posts
Them seem to be the choices ahead at the moment though. A different deal would likely be more suitable for all, but incredibly unlikely unless granted a long extension and change in PM.
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3-12-2019 00:52:29 Mobile | Show all posts
Isn't it just! Too many Tory Boy Brexiteers for my liking!
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3-12-2019 00:52:30 Mobile | Show all posts
Always good to get other views though. I follow Dan Hannan on twitter and used to agree with a lot of what he says but then realised he is living in a dreamland of a free market utopia that just doesn't exist. Maybe one day it will but not in my or my kids lifetime that's for sure!
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3-12-2019 00:52:30 Mobile | Show all posts
I completely agree, what I think we are seeing is that people would reluctantly put the project back on the top shelf and try again at another time rather than leave just for the sake of it.  Of course by doing so they may have lost their last chance to do so, but it may be what we have come to.

Edit:  personally, I'd rather not remain, rather not no deal and rather not may deal, so not sure which option to pick
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3-12-2019 00:52:31 Mobile | Show all posts
Normally I'd agree....
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 Author| 3-12-2019 00:52:32 Mobile | Show all posts
That's the whole point of the poll ... It's facing the reality of what is actually happening and what have to do, not necessarily what we 'wish' we could do - because like the Poll, those are more or less the real options and decision we have very little time to make.
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3-12-2019 00:52:32 Mobile | Show all posts
Actually a lot of Leavers do not want a 'no deal'.
So the Poll option 'I want to leave with no deal' is not a good way to phrase it.
In my case I would say 'Do you reject Mays deal, want Brexit, and accept a no deal could be the outcome'.
We are where we are because Theresa May and Olly Robbins got the negotiation strategy wrong right from the start. We have ended up with a deal which was 90% written by the EU and has now been signed off by all parties.
They should have taken a more aggressive stance, formulated their own plan, while the iron was hot, just after the referendum. As it is they have been led down the garden path by the EU which they are very happy with, and Parliament, quite rightly,  has rejected it - because it sells us down the river.
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3-12-2019 00:52:33 Mobile | Show all posts
This also proves how difficult a second referendum would be. How would it be worded?
If there was such a crazy plan to do it all again, it would have to be the same question as before. But with the proviso of a no deal.

Leave (no deal possible)
or Remain.
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3-12-2019 00:52:34 Mobile | Show all posts
I think this is the key part that was missed entirely.  Whilst the Leave campaign was writing cheques it had no actual power/responsibility to deliver, the Government should have been putting their own plan together instead of blindly assuming Remain would be the winning vote.
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