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2-12-2019 04:32:30 Mobile | Show all posts |Read mode
I have looked at so many lately, going around the bend, obviously going to see what is about for Black Friday deals to.  If anyone has any pointers on best us based on things below.

A 3 bed semi, currently have BB with JohnLewis and I think a Xytel router which does ok overall and able to stream 4k etc to LG OLED tv.  mesh is for better performance upstairs etc.I think but not sure imagine its easier to keep existing router? I read some create another network with new pass word, some use same as currently have.Would want Ethernet port on nodes for the PC upstairs.Would want control of individual devices so can stop kids in future using ipad etc.Not after any major control of settings, such as web based login control page.Thanks
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2-12-2019 04:32:32 Mobile | Show all posts
Wi-Fi is fundamentally an "only-one-thing-at-a-time-can-transmit" technology. The more "things" you have in each cell, the more competition (it's anything but "fair") there is for some "air time." Having gained control of the airwaves, signalling conditions (basically) dictate how much data can be transmitted in the time allotted - ie "speed."

Deploying multiple Wi-Fi cells means fewer "things" in each cell, thus less air time competition and better performance. Generally one also gets clients and AP's closer together which thusly improves signalling conditions which can further improve performance. It's not for nothing that on big sites we put up hundreds of AP's - not just to achieve the geographical coverage, but to reduce the air time competition.

This is irrespective  of whether you have a "mesh" system of not. Where life gets "interesting" is how one achieves the "backhaul" links between all the AP's and the rest of the (wired) network. "Proper" network cables is best, HomePlugs used to almost always be next best, but now "mesh" is in the SOHO market and Tri-band and the latest Wi-Fi standards mitigate the bandwith clobbering of using Wi-Fi for backhaul and client access, it's debatable - it depends on individual use case somewhat.

If it's working well enough at availing Internet service, probably yes. There's no good reason to chuck just to replace your Wi-Fi. Most SOHO routers will let you disable their Wi-Fi quite simply (your incumbent router's Wi-Fi won't "play nice" with your shiny new mesh system unless it's been designed to do so.)

There's not absolute "right" or "wrong" way to do it:

If you have the same SSID and passphrase on all your AP's then client devices may (just "may") automatically "roam" between AP's without user intervention when they see fit. Note it is the client device that decides if/when to initiate a roaming assessment, not "the system" - some clients need it to get pretty ropey before they consider roaming. Thusly, one could be sat right next to an AP, but if your client has decided not to use it and use one further away, it could be, the service could be poorer. It's "Big Wi-Fi Myth Number 2" that clients are always "hunting for the best signal" - they do not. Some newer Wi-Fi standards incorporate a kind of "hint" mechanism whereby the (mesh) system can suggest to a client it might "be better off on a different AP" but it's still up to the client whether it want to "take the hint" and older clients are not "hint compliant."

If you make your SSID's different, clients will never roam to another AP automatically until they completely loose connection and start over as if you'd just turned them on. But you will always know which AP you are using as you have to explicitly pick it from a list every time you want to "roam." However, with some later OS's even this is getting a bit less of a hard and fast rule as OS designers are doing more "interesting" things in the Wi-Fi software.

You pays your money, you takes your choice.

Check the spec. carefully for this function: Not all AP's offer it and don't "just assume" that because an AP has an ethernet port, it can be used to service downstream devices. In much kit, the ethernet port on an AP is simply for availing cabled ethernet backhauls, not client devices. What you want may be referred to as "bridge" or "client access" mode but check carefully.
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 Author| 2-12-2019 04:32:33 Mobile | Show all posts
Thanks I think I get what you mean, have tried powerline plugs before but wifi is better generally.  
I will be sure to check ports actually work.
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2-12-2019 04:32:34 Mobile | Show all posts
Do post back if there's anything you need greater clarity on or want to explore further. If I am unable to offer it, it is very likely someone else will be able to coin a different set of words that make more sense. Sometimes it just needs someone to hit the right buttons in terms of phraseology.!  There's a fair smattering of "old lags" in the data networking profession that lurk in this forum.
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2-12-2019 04:32:35 Mobile | Show all posts
Tenda MW3. Very cost-effective, I bought a 3 pack starter pack, and 2 additional nodes to cover our home for just £126. It has been rock solid and does have an ethernet port that is usable. In my office, it is used by a switch to turn it into 24 ports

We can stream with no problem regularly 2-3 Netflix UHD streams and having a youtube one going as well.
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 Author| 2-12-2019 04:32:36 Mobile | Show all posts
Thanks yeah, I have looked at reviews of much cheaper ones and it may be better option for now to see how it goes and with technology how it goes all systems can imagine will be updated each year never keep up.
I think will see what comes black Friday, as long as have some of the above points I mentioned I am sure most will do the job for us.
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2-12-2019 04:32:36 Mobile | Show all posts
Yes I can confirm those Tenda ones do what you want. If you had super fast broadband you may want the model up the MW6 but if not these are absolutely fine.

What was mentioned earlier was very good though, for some using the Ethernet port will break the mesh function.

Definitely wait until tomorrow. I’m sure amazon will do a deal
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 Author| 2-12-2019 04:32:36 Mobile | Show all posts
Can I block a device and see it on app like daughters ipad? I am thinking more for future and when has a smart tv in room ability to turn off wifi to each device.
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2-12-2019 04:32:37 Mobile | Show all posts
Yes you can. You can add and remove devices to a blacklist.

It doesn’t have build in time periods or anything, so it is either on or off. But often you can do that as part of the router itself if you wish more granularity in those kind of settings.
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 Author| 2-12-2019 04:32:37 Mobile | Show all posts
Is it a simple as going to app and turning off that device?
Would be fine just be good to be able to turn off devices, maybe even the wife's iphone to ha!
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