Whats the Better 27" IPS Monitor from this List?

KILLER NADS

I have been searching for a new monitor for over a week continuosly now, spent many hours on it but just cant find a good fit.

If anyone can recommend anything that fits my needs that would be great:
- 2k or 4k
- g-sync
- IPS
- Refresh rate ideally above 100hz
- Response below 6ms
- 27"-28"
- Around £600 if 4K or under £500 if 2k.
- VESA support
- Thin bezels

I only really need it as my secondary monitor to go along side my current BenQ 1080p monitor. But of course if the secondary monitor is better then i will shift to that for my primary monitor and do all pc gaming etc on that.
Although im still a bit confused should i go for a 4k monitor (ive learned that most are locked to 60hz anyway) or should i go with a 2K QHD monitor? Thats a real baffling question for me currently as i have no experience in this area and its the first time im trying a multiple monitor setup.

I dont know if a 1080p monitor would work well with a 4k or even 2k monitor, i understand though that we have windows upscaling  etc available to us, but i dont know if it works well as i want to use Unity3D for game development mostly across 2 monitors, and that is my main motivation for getting a second monitor, i do some occasional gaming also but not online competitions or anything like that.

Ive had a long and hard look for many days now, some of the best monitors i found were these but im still unsure which one to purchase (ive only really considered IPS panels due to them being better in colours then TN Panels):

4K Monitors
LG 27UK850

Samsung LU28H750UQUXEN

Acer Predator XB271HKbmiprz 27 Inch UHD Gaming Monitor, Black (IPS Panel, G-Sync, 4 ms, ZeroFrame, DP, HDMI, USB Hub, Height Adjustable Stand)

BenQ EL2870U 28 Inch UHD 4K 1 ms HDR Eye-Care LED Gaming Monitor, Free-Sync, B.I. Plus Sensor, HDMI, Display Port, Speaker - Metallic Grey

2K Monitors
Dell U2715H

Acer XF270HUAbmiidprzx

BenQ EW2770QZ

ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q

Out of the lot the LG27UK850, is probably my favourite one especially since its only like £480 for both 4K and HDR. But i absolutely hate the back white panel, and as the monitor will be on a mount arm, the back panel will be quite seeable in my home cinema room which is where this will be. My second favourites so far seems to be either the Acer Predator 4K or ASUS ROG Swift but they are very costly, and i dont know if i should really bother paying this high a price for a monitor when i only do limited gaming on PC's, most of my gaming is done on consoles apart from VR which i do a lot on PC. The Dell is another good option, but i still feel that the LG is a better all round option then all of these, but darn that white color back
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EndlessWaves

1080p, 2K and 4K are terms from the TV world, unless you're watching a lot of movies on it they're not very relevant as most computer uses use the resolution differently to TV.

Generally more resolution doesn't translate to more detail as it does on TVs but more space. So for example during unity development you'll be able to see more lines of code at once. Generally the 'normal' size if 1920x1080 at 23-24", 2560x1440 at 32" and [email protected]"

Slightly larger screens at the same resolution cater for those that want the screen slightly further away (large desk, wall mount etc.) while slightly smaller screens cater to those who sit very close.

There are screens that are very small for their resolution, and they're known as HiDPI or Retina screens. They're part of a long term effort to move Windows and Mac OS away from element sizing being dependant on resolution. They work akin to TVs where the size of stuff on screen doesn't change but programs with HiDPI/Retina support can add more detail.

HiDPI support has been slow in developing though, so there are still plenty of programs that can't take advantage of it and a few troublesome programs using custom interfaces that don't scale at all and appear tiny.

The optimal scaling factor for HiDPI is whole numbers, i.e. 2x. So you'll get best results running a 3840x2160 screen at the same sizing as 1920x1080 and 5120x2880 at 2560x1440 sizing. Other scalings are possible, although they do produce slight fuzziness (although many people choose to use them).

The 'better colours' in IPS refers to more consistent colours across the screen. TN panels tend to have a slight top to bottom gradient caused by the slightly different angles you view each edge at. Things like the richness of colours is dependant on the backlight and colour filter, not the type of LCD.


VESA are the standards body responsible for a lot of monitor standards so which one are you talking about? You're not going to get VESA adaptive sync support on a G-sync screen, Nvidia's licensing agreements are too restrictive.

KILLER NADS

Thank you for your explanation, you definitely explained alot of stuff that i didnt know about. However, i dont think you mentioned one thing, my current monitor is 1080p, the new monitor im looking to purchase might be a 2k or 4k, i plan on using the windows upscale feature, would both the monitors work well together with this? If one is on 1080p and the other on 4k? or would i run into many issues and problems?

Also by VESA, i actually meant the wall bracket mount, most if not all of the monitors i mentioned in my list have the VESA capabilities already to be mounted on a desk arm.

EndlessWaves

You typically wouldn't use scaling on a 2560x1440 monitor, the resolution is a bit low for that.

You don't mention which OS you're using. I believe Windows 10 supports different scaling factors between screens, but there were some issues with programs being moved between screens not adjusting as well as they could so you didn't get the full benefit. I don't know what proportion of programs are yet to support it properly though.

KILLER NADS

Ah okay cool thanks, yeh I’m using windows 10. So 2k monitor sounds like it would be better suited for when moving applications and windows across screens from 1080p to 2k whereas doing the same thing in 4K would be problematic?

EndlessWaves

I'm waiting for the Ultrawide HiDPI screens to come down in price before I buy into it, so I can't judge from personal experience how troublesome it is. I believe everything works fine, it's just slightly different quality depending on which screen you open it on.

You don't say what size your current 19x10 screen is, but bear in mind that unless that's the same DPI as the 25x14 one you're considering (meaning circa 20-21" diagonal) you'll have things being different sizes on each screen so they'll shrink or expand as you move them across. It also means your mouse wouldn't travel in a straight line but would jump up or down as it crossed the border between them.

KILLER NADS

okay thanks, i currently have the BenQ XL2411T.

At the moment im thinking to settle down on getting the LG 27UK850, i think its probably the best option and also its £480 which is alot cheaper then the Acer Predator and ASUS Rog Swift! I just really hate the back white color on the monitor itself. Hopefully its a good monitor for both productivity and gaming, all the youtube videos ive seen so far have said it is. Its wierd though as there seems to be a shortage of this monitor in UK, both Amazon and overclockers are taking preorders with no release date.

KILLER NADS

Thanks for your answers, i ended up purchasing the LG 27UK850. Its an amazing 4k ips HDR screen. So far im pretty glad that i chose this one over the others, it blows away my old screen in picture quality.

Just 2 issues however, so now i have a 4k screen and a 1080p screen. In windows i have set the 4k screen with 175% scale, and the 1080p screen with 100%. However, now the windows do not align with each other. the 1080p window is much smaller. How can i force the 1080p monitor window in the rearrange display settings to be the same size as the other monitor without changing its resolution?

My old 1080p monitor also allows me to change it to 4k resolution and i tried that and scaled it to 175% but the picture quality was horrible, even text was blurry and just hurt my eyes, hence i changed it back to 1080p.

Secondly, the new LG monitor has a USB-C input. I thought that i could use this for my Nintendo Switch and just connect the handheld device to the monitor via USB-C to USB-C cable, but i get no image on this monitor. Its wierd as i know its possible as ive seen other people do it with other monitors on youtube, such as the vinpok split portable monitor.

EndlessWaves

Anything you do to the lower resolution monitor to adjust size is going to introduce some blur. Your best bet is probably to set a custom scaling size on the new screen rather than 175%. Click the advanced scaling settings link in display settings and try various values until it matches.

Although a 24" 1920x1080 shouldn't be 'much smaller' than a 27" [email protected]%, they should be similar sizes.


Looking around the Switch output appears to be standard DP Alternate mode which your screen supports, and your screen's 60W PD output capability is sufficient for the switch. Is it a fully wired cable? I've seen some that omit some of the wires to keep costs down (they may be advertised as USB 2.0 or similar).

Might be worth contacting LG support on that one.

KILLER NADS

Thanks for your response once again. Ill give that custom scaling size a try and see if it works but at the moment the difference in screen size on the monitor rearranging screen is massive, the 4k screen is almost 4x bigger. Which i guess it makes sense since its 1080p and 4k screens. But surely windows must have assumed that people would mix these two screens togather and use them so should have thought about making the screen size the same during the rearranging!?! Does changing to custom scale fix this issue?

As for the switch the cable that i used was the cable that came with the monitor USB-C to USB-C and also i tried my macbook pro charging cable which is also USB-C to USB-C, none of those ones worked.