sony hdv camcorder firewire out... laptop hdmi in?

peter777

hi guys...

...I got loads of mini-dv tapes, recorded with my Hdr–HC1 sony hdv camcorder... cant connect to my msi prestige laptop (g51-n1pr891-cb8) via I-link / firewired cable, cause it doesent have a firewire port …

… here now my question:

can I buy a firewire-hdmi-adaper cable instead ...

(https://www.amazon.co.jp/MacLab-Thunderbolt-DisplayPort-マルチディスプレイ-macbook/dp/B00BXGK834/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1532017822&sr=1-2&keywords=firewire hdmi)

...and then upload my videos to my laptop from camcorders firewire port to my laptops hdmi port...!? … I also got usb 3.0 ports, a port called SS and a port with a capital 'D' (almost excactly the size of a firewire… just ALMOST... wont fit.... I tried -.-)… that's about it …

I REALLY appreciate ANY help...

thanks in advance!!!

peter

MarkE19

Welcome to the forum peter777

It is almost a certain that the HDMI port on your laptop is an output only. HDMI inputs are very rare.
SS port is 'Super Speed' USB3 and D port is 'Display Port' (also only an output)

Capturing full quality miniDV/HDV footage requires a constant capture speed that USB (all versions) can't do. Therefore your only option is to not get the best quality and use USB via an adapter with compression and therefore some loss of quality.
The only input that can now capture full quality from HDV or miniDV tapes is Thunderbolt, but this is rare on Windows laptops unless paying top dollar.

Sorry it is not better news.

Mark.

andy1249

No.
Firewire is totally incompatible with HDMI.
The product linked is a con job and cannot possibly work.
There is no way to connect firewire to HDMI.

The only way to get your job done is with a full size desktop PC with a firewire expansion card added.

noiseboy72

That cable linked to is a Thunderbolt not Firewire.

Firewire is terribly supported on Windows 7 onwards. Even the correct cards and drivers are very flaky with video and often don't work correctly. This https://www.amazon.co.uk/STARTECH-COM-port-1394a-FireWire-Adapter/dp/B00006B8EQ/ref=pd_sbs_147_7?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00006B8EQ&pd_rd_r=f0267bbd-8b92-11e8-af96-db152dcced4b&pd_rd_w=UfVix&pd_rd_wg=m0MgW&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_p=5179604776422437276&pf_rd_r=FEYY05AZA8DNYZAZW87P&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=FEYY05AZA8DNYZAZW87P might work in a desktop PC, but there's really  no other option for laptops.

peter777

hi guys, thanks a bunch for all your comments... and sorry for replying so late... was away for the weekend... will check now your replies and will be back in a sec ...and thanks again!!!

peter777

back again... and again thanks … I was astonished to hear the usb-advise... I was under the impression, that usb does not work AT ALL with firewire...!? concerning the windows 7 comment... that sounds terrible... moreover... sony stopped support for its dv-handycam-software from vista downwards...so I MUST get it for a windows 7 or higher -.- ...though I found this in wiki: ''Unibrain offers free FireWire networking drivers for Windows called ubCore,[70] which support Windows Vista and later versions.''... so even with an old vista laptop for a couple of bucks, I should be in the clear... I think that's best... will just buy an old one with an I-link port... *looking around … searching for nodding heads and approval...*
ps: yeah the thing with the desktop card... mmmhhh… no desktop... that would have worked well...thanks... and THANKS to all of you

Terfyn

One check you can make. Amazon show a small number of firewire adapters designed to fit into certain ports on a laptop. You could check if you have the appropriate ports on your laptop, if you have and decide to go that way, you may need to add some 1394 legacy software.

Another option is to find somebody with a DVD recorder, some are fitted with firewire connectors, (Example Panasonic DMR-ES15EB) you could then record to a DVD (in SD) and transfer to your laptop.

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mikes48

Been researching a similar issue, and found your useful comment, Mark .

I've recently bought a new PC to replace my previous one, to which I'd fitted a PCI Firewire card, which captured DV faultlessly from my two Mini DV camcorders.

The new PC is an Intel NUC8i7BEH, so no way of adding a card to that! It does however have a Thunderbolt 3 port, and there is a 1394ohci.sys file in the Windows System 32 drivers folder.

I have Firewire 4-pin to 4-pin and 4-pin to 6-pin cables.

So the question is; can I connect my DV camcorder to the NUC PC via Thunderbolt 3?

It seems that I may need two or three adaptors to make the connection, but the main issue is whether in principle I can transfer full quality DV into the Windows PC - or whether the whole shebang relies on having an Apple device as the final destination!

I'd be pleased to have your - or anybody else's view

MarkE19

Firewire is now a legacy port and gets very little love. So as you say your only option is a Thunderbolt 2 to firewire adapter and then a TB2 to TB3 adapter - I cannot find a single adapter anywhere.
If it helps Thunderbolt 3 and USB-C are the same thing, but I still couldn't find anything simple (or cheap )

Apple Thunderbolt to FireWire Adapter
Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C) to Thunderbolt 2 Adapter

Mark.