Immigrants go home ...

Sonic67

Well they have learned that.

BBC News - Calais migrants in human rights protest

Trollslayer

They have the right to obey the law.

loz

Well they have a right to be treated fairly and with respect.

But that's France's and the countries the migrants passed through problem.

Not the UKs.

robel

This is where we go wrong.

They break the law.
They have no respect.

We give them a house....

Saldawop

Surely we can use The Dublin  Regulation to send them back?

loz

We (the UK) don't have to do anything with them (the ones in Calais).  The French do.

loz

Treating people fairly and with respect doesn't mean giving them a house.  It just means not treating them like animals.

You can't simply say "send them back". Send them back where? They have no papers, and won't say where they came from. And you have no idea how and where they entered the EU in the first place.

Nor can you simply say "lock them up", as that is far more costly than giving them a house and a job.

The only sensible thing to do (IMO) is for the EU to collectively put far more effort into stopping it at source. Once they have reached Calais it is almost too late.

Trollslayer

Sounds like supporting Italy might be worth thinking about - they get an awful lot of boats coming over from North Africa to Sicily and from there they move on.

Trollslayer

Interesting comments here:
BBC News - France must control its borders - Lord Howard
"The general principle which every member state of the European Union has subscribed to is that people fleeing persecution should apply for asylum in the first safe country they reach.

"France used to take this very seriously. When I was home secretary we had an agreement with France under which if people came to the United Kingdom from France and claimed asylum we would return them to France, and France dealt with their claim, and that's what really ought to happen."

Cliff

I don't follow Lord Howard's logic!  It is not France's borders, it is the border with Italy and other countries with the outside world that are porous. Once through that secure border they just travel through Europe, which is pretty much border-less due to the Schengen agreement.

Who said these are all asylum seekers anyway? Many are just coming to Britain because they have heard things are good. Just because their own country is broken, does that mean we have to take everybody?