EU vote - Do you regret your decision?

Derder6000

I personally think we are going to end up with a Norwegian deal.

Free movement, free access to market, still pay in (just a lot less),couple of exclusion(fisheries etc) and absolutely no say in the direction of the EU.

Seems, ahem...worse?

The Dude

Free movement is off the table.
Free trade without free movement is off the table.

Contenders....READY!!
Gladiators......READY!!


- A fast track visa for EU nationals looks odds on for me, that's if we haven't already got EU2 in place by the time of our departure.

Derder6000

Haha.

I can't see these negotiations going well. What I have seen coming out of the EU, is a message that 'the treaties are the treaties and thus, non-negotiable.'

I can't see us being able to cherry pick, or else, in that case what is even the point of the EU?

The Dude

That's the one big question which has come up as a direct result of Brexit, I don't think the power balance in our exit negotiations is anywhere as near as one-sided as some may have you believe.

We are worth EUR50Bn to Germany alone, they might not be as keen to lose our custom as EU politcians are trying to make out.

Cliff

Rather than looking at the UK as a little outsider with a begging bowl, you have ignore the left narrative and look how important the UK is to EU business.
We import more than we export and if trade barriers are erected between us and the EU who will be the biggest losers?
                                                                               

Overseas Trade Statistics

m4rky_m4rk

Goliath... READY!!
David .....READY!!... 'er actually no, not just yet, can we take a wee pause while I, I mean, er, someone thinks about it.' Hang on a tick ....Boris the Union slayer(both of them) ready,,, er No, OK , er, oh, Farage the statesman nahhh,,,, ??? hang on, I, ooops,  I mean they, will get back soon. Click.

Derder6000

It is more to do with principles.

If Britain gets an amazing deal, what sort of message does that send out to current EU members.

It could potentially totally undermine the strength of the EU.

It'd be like a Broadband company giving a better deal to an old member as opposed to a current member. It alienates the current member. It isn't a good direction.

Not the best analogy, admittedly, but the point is there.

The Dude

It's what's called posturing Mark, it's one of the fundamental elements of all negotiation.

SteakAndCake

Prefect analogy.  Brexit rivals BT's customer support as one of the greatest clusterf*cks of our age.

m4rky_m4rk

Really, never knew. Ta. So it is all planned after all and they are just pretending to be in disarray.