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Beginning of the end of the Lib Dems

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26-11-2019 00:17:01 Mobile | Show all posts |Read mode
Had a thread for Labour and the Tories.

Just as fitting (more now) to have one for the Lib Dems

Tim Farron quits as Lib Dem leader - BBC News

Last 2 leaders have been awful (imo).

Smarmy.  Smug.  Know-it-alls.

If Jeremy takes Labour further and further left, I suppose there's some ground for the Lib Dems on the centre left.

Bit over 2 million votes they got at the last election so about 1 in 12-13 voters, voted for LD.

Hardly going to be missed.
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26-11-2019 00:17:02 Mobile | Show all posts
This is not the end,
This is not even the beginning of the end,
This is just perhaps the end of the beginning.
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26-11-2019 00:17:03 Mobile | Show all posts
History repeating itself probably. The Liberal Party went into decline and never really recovered for various reasons.
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26-11-2019 00:17:04 Mobile | Show all posts
Newly re-elected Jo Swinson is bookies' favourite to replace Farron
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26-11-2019 00:17:05 Mobile | Show all posts
We wouldn't see eye to eye on politics but I'm 100% behind his sentiment here - good on him.

As a white, male, middle-class, Englishman I am getting thoroughly sick of this country that labels me as discrimintory, or a racist or a bigot before they have heard what I have to say.

Cheers,

Nigel
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26-11-2019 00:17:06 Mobile | Show all posts
He was one of the big reasons I couldn't vote libdem, and he definitely should have left this announcement another day, but I did dislike the press hounding him about his personal views.
He was a big champion of LGBT rights and I think it's quite possible to separate certain personal viewpoints from party held ones. Saying that, maybe it was for the best, he really wasn't taking the party anywhere at all.
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26-11-2019 00:17:07 Mobile | Show all posts
No big loss. I presume party colleagues found him to be a tiresome attention seeker just like the Met did.
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 Author| 26-11-2019 00:17:08 Mobile | Show all posts
Though I don't like the guy, I have some sympathy for his current predicament.

If he was a leader of the party that I was voting for/supporting, I couldn't care less about his Christian faiths or whether he thought Gay marriage/sex was a sin.

There are so many problems in the world right now, the above is probably way down in the hundreds, as to how important it is, compared to other issues.

I wouldn't have a problem voting for a party that's stance on a number of issues, were a bit different to individuals in said party.

Everything has to be so politically correct these days.  It's ridiculous.
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26-11-2019 00:17:09 Mobile | Show all posts
For a number of years the LibDems have been overly politically correct - seems to be an obsession with them.

To think they lost about 50 seats in the 2015 general election and never really recovered must be a blow to their confidence.

IMO they need a character, someone like Boris Johnson, to pull them up out of the sweetly sticky mess they're in. But of course a strong wilful character is not LibDem material, so it will never happen.
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26-11-2019 00:17:10 Mobile | Show all posts
^^^ Alan, their  well known 'characters' of recent(ish) years were a prolific paedophile, a leader charged with conspiracy to murder and a leader who drank himself to death
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