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sidicks

What claims would that be?

MikeTV

Your claims that they are not farther right than the tories. That is what you're disputing, isn't it, when you asked this: "What is it about UKIP that you believes makes them 'farther right than the mainstream Tories'?".

I think the onus is on you to explain why don't think that, since my view is a pretty orthodox view. Obviously I could talk about libertarianism, anti- immigration, anti-EU, flat taxes, etc. And I've talked about the tories and the middle ground, and the coalition, etc. But everybody knows all that, that's common knowledge.

What's not so obvious is why anyone would think I was wrong in my assertion. So stop stalling...

sidicks

Behind in favour of controlled immigration isn't a right wing policy.  Neither is being Anti-EU.

A tax policy that proposes a huge increase to the tax free allowance making the lowest paid much better off isn't particularly right wing either.

So whilst UKIP are definitely a right if centre party, it is not clear what policies you were referring to, to make them right of the conservatives, unless you mis-represent their EU and immigration policies as right wing!

MikeTV

Or maybe it is! It all rather depends, doesn't it?
So most of the right wing newspapers are pro-eu, are they?
That all rather depends on what they do to welfare, doesn't it? reducing the amount of tax the wealthiest pay - that's left wing is it?

Come on, Sidicks. You've back yourself into a bit of a silly corner.

sidicks

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It is neither exclusively right or left.


So there are no left wing parties against the EU?

What are they going to do with welfare?

Of course a simplified flat rate system might well lead to the wealthiest paying higher taxes due to reduced avoidance and evasion!

Mike - did you have a difficult childhood?  Is this why you keep going with your attention-seeking behaviour??

EarthRod

Now stop it you two, otherwise someone will send you to bed without any hot milk.

MikeTV

When Sidicks resorts to ad hominem, it means you've won the argument.

sidicks

I think many people lost patience with your trolling some time ago.

la gran siete

to the power of two

sidicks

Given that is how the majority of your threads start, what does that say about you?