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25-11-2019 21:20:26 Mobile | Show all posts |Read mode
Hoping someone can point me in the right direction.


My 9 year old is interested in playing with synths. I have no knowledge other than what I'm reading (and it mostly blows my head!) I need something simple (and cheap - 2nd hand) that he can lay down some tunes fairly easily, perhaps including an appegiator which looks like fun.


We've a basic laptop he can connect to I also have a very old Yam PSR 36 that seems to work and has midi in and out - could this be used with a module or is it too old skool?

I don’t mind age of unit but I do want something that he can get to grips with on a basic level so he’s not put off.


Is there anything say under £100 second hand anyone would recommend to investigate?


If he gets into it then great we can look at something better at a later date. Also what blows my head may well not blow his I suppose.



Many thanks



Martin
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25-11-2019 21:20:27 Mobile | Show all posts
Let me look around, Some of the older sound modules may do the trick with your yamaha but you would also nead a midi-usb adapter to plug in to the puter
Plus some sort of music software..... Mostly these days people use soft synths ( these are software, all the controls are virtual on the puter screen)
Therefore you would only need a midi usb connector and some software!!!!!
I have been out of the loop for a while so will have a google etc
Look forward to any other replies too as I also fancy another go

Sound on Sound is a good place to look for ideas either print magazine or online


The 50 best VST/AU plugin synths in the world today


12 of the best free VST/AU plugin synths
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 Author| 25-11-2019 21:20:28 Mobile | Show all posts
Cheers, Will have a good read. Thank you too as I now understand what it meant by soft synth. I definitely want something if possible with knobs and twiddly bits on for him. Just feel it's more interesting and interactive
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 Author| 25-11-2019 21:20:29 Mobile | Show all posts
Are the Korg Volcas worth looking at?
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25-11-2019 21:20:30 Mobile | Show all posts
It's gonna be hard to get a synth for £100. If your lad is computer savvy I'd definitely go down the software route. If your laptop has half decent on board sound then you might get away with a USB MIDI cable (£10 off Ebay) otherwise you'd need to pick up a cheap USB audio interface. A little over budget but consider the following setup:

Reason Essentials 8 software - really good for synths and creating your own sounds
Reason Essentials 8

M-Audio Oxygen controller keyboard - you could use the Yamaha but this has all the assignable knobs to twiddle with
M-Audio Oxygen 25 Mk4

Any USB audio interface, there are loads to choose from starting around £30. A good one with mic inputs for the future costs around £100. You could also look for the controller keyboard second hand to save a few quid too.
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 Author| 25-11-2019 21:20:30 Mobile | Show all posts
Cheers, I see what you mean regarding the M-Audio ( an still twiddle lol) I've ordered an MIDI USB thing and will have look at the other items.
I've no idea if the laptop has decent sound card. We've an 5 year old Macbook Pro which might be OK and a £200 laptop which whilst it has DTS plastered on it I doubt has much about it. Still I'm sure I could fudge something together that sounds OK for the moment
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 Author| 25-11-2019 21:20:30 Mobile | Show all posts
Following up from the above I've come across the Novation Launch key 49. Comes with some software and is about £140. Seems like quite a lot for a start package and reviews well. Also hooks up to an iPad which could be useful. Worth looking at? Thanks martin
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25-11-2019 21:20:31 Mobile | Show all posts
Probably a bit late to the party here but the Arturia Minilab is well under £100 and comes bundled with retro synth collection software. It really is very good.
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 Author| 25-11-2019 21:20:31 Mobile | Show all posts
Not too late as I don't intend to do anything till Feb. My thinking is that 49 keys would enable a bit more traditional playing too. That minilab is v good value though
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 Author| 25-11-2019 21:20:31 Mobile | Show all posts
Well I got a £6 midi to usb cable, downloaded garageband on the mac, and hooked up the old Yam with some speakers last night. Not really expecting anything to work ( and it didn't till I reversded the midi cables) and lost 4 hours mucking around.

Seriously surprised by how decent the thing sounded and how much garageband has for a freebie.  Enough for me to let the boy loose on and see if there is genuine interest. I can see how much the pots and the knobs would be great on the midi controllers, but £6 to get us up and running is brilliant
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