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24-11-2019 23:53:19 Mobile | Show all posts
It's good that you were able to identify the problem and fix it but what about the next person who'd son/daughter/mother/brother has a deeply unsafe car passed to save some unscrupulous trader the bother of replacing a worn consumable part?

Tackling MOT fraud: protecting us from unsafe drivers and vehicles - Matters of Testing
If you don't want to face the MOT station you can do it online and let DVLA deal with it.
Complain about an MOT

I take it you've also checked the validity of the MOT online and the VIN matches the paperwork?
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24-11-2019 23:53:20 Mobile | Show all posts
Well, unbelievable as it may be, those discs are not a failure unless they had a crack in them or were worn down enough to be seriously weakened or insecure....the pads however, are a definite fail!
If the brake readings are within limits and the brake isn't sticking then only the pads are a fail....Mot Testers Manual section 3.5,(1) i.
There should have been an advisory on the discs.
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24-11-2019 23:53:20 Mobile | Show all posts
Yet a number plate light not working or insecure is a fail.

You could even question the pads  being a pass, we can only see one and if when fitted the tester can't see it clearly below 1.5mm he has to pass it.
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24-11-2019 23:53:21 Mobile | Show all posts
Under the new MOT regs isn't it a major fault if there is signs of excessive wear on the discs?
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24-11-2019 23:53:22 Mobile | Show all posts
Surely if the brake power during the test passes then the visual appearance doesn't really matter does it?
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24-11-2019 23:53:23 Mobile | Show all posts
Im different to everyone else.
Disks are well beyond their sell by date.
One is still giving some breaking as you can see the " clean " area swept by the pad.
The other is giving almost nothing.
You have to check the pads and calipers. Even if the pads were down to the metal the brakes would work
It suggests to me that at least 1 side not working.
I doubt that passed the brake test at the MOT station and without question they would be an advisory on the mot certificate.
My daughters disks were nowhere near that condition and we got an advisory and I changed them so I know.
The amount of rust / their condition would make me want to look at the rear brakes too and the rest of the car. Has it sat under water ?

Lastly brakes ARE a safety issue. I dare say if you had sped down the road and had an accident / killed someone and were investigated you would be facing large sentence / compensation bills due to the state of those brakes.
Clearly a dodgy car dealer and I would not hesitate to report him & the mot station.
Make sure you keep them as evidence and I would be tempted to name/shame and stick it in the local press.
Utter mofo selling a car with brakes like that.
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24-11-2019 23:53:23 Mobile | Show all posts
I don't think anyone is suggesting those disks are "OK" the question is whether or not they could have got through an MOT. And somewhat to my surprise the answer may be yes.
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24-11-2019 23:53:24 Mobile | Show all posts
Im not an MOT tester but am willing to wager a pint they won't.
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24-11-2019 23:53:25 Mobile | Show all posts
I was going on post#12 where car-man says that under the existing regs they would be an advisory, not a fail.
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24-11-2019 23:53:25 Mobile | Show all posts
Yes the question is could they pass a mot, under the new wording as carman says they would pass as not seriously weakened or insecure, I would fail them as seriously weakened and no one would argue against it, but another tester could pass them.
The pads have to be below 1.5mm and when in situ it's very difficult to see them so an advise would be ok.
The roller brake test as proven here is by no means an indication that the brakes would work ok under heavy prolonged braking, it's they just worked ok at an assumed low speed for the brake test.
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