nheather Publish time 26-11-2019 02:36:47

I get fed up with all this pussy-footing about when it comes to religious schools.OFSTED found clear evidence of racist and homophobic teaching and materials.That is clearly illegal (inciting hatred) so shouldn't be down to OFSTED - the police should just go in and arrest the head and the governors - charge them with hate crimes.

BTW - the schools in question have been Islam and Judaism based.

Cheers,

Nigel

thefragile Publish time 26-11-2019 02:36:47

I think the point is "free schools" shouldn't be allowed to be as non secular schools.

Something I'd agree with

Trollslayer Publish time 26-11-2019 02:36:47

Turning things around again.
Schools of any faith should be held to the same criteria.

stanga Publish time 26-11-2019 02:36:48

But where do you prioritise inspection and enforcement resources?

It's the real world we have to live in - hard times and harder decisions.

Trollslayer Publish time 26-11-2019 02:36:48

Oh, I don't know.
Follow the evidence as you get it?

stanga Publish time 26-11-2019 02:36:48

So you follow the evidence as you get it from the inspectors. Where do you prioritise sending the inspectors (the question you haven't answered)?

Pecker Publish time 26-11-2019 02:36:48

We're in danger of discussing different topics and getting them muddled.

Most faith schools are state schools which receive a little extra funding (5%) from the church.

They are subject to OFSTED inspection, and are closely regulated.

In principle I object, but in practice, on balance they're bringing in extra funding to the education system, and they're really not a problem.My kids go to a CofE school (it was closest, and they'd been to Nursery in the same grounds), and there's no indoctrination.

These 'free' school, for me the problem isn't that they're religious, it's that they're 'free'.It's not difficult to imagine all sorts of dodgy goings on, quite apart from religion.

Steve W

thefragile Publish time 26-11-2019 02:36:48

There's also all sorts of dodgy funding going on with academies.

It seems the government has turned a blind eye to dodgy goings on in schools in order to alleviate funding commitments from the state.

Trollslayer Publish time 26-11-2019 02:36:49

Did I say from the inspectors? yet again you put words into my mouth.

Cliff Publish time 26-11-2019 02:36:49

Quite agree. We are in danger of throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

Many CofE and R/C schools do provide a high standard of education, and no indoctrination. A few prayers here and there and a nativity play. Just because we have Islamic schools that are failing and need serious attention for all sorts of reasons does not mean we should stop all religious schools.
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