rustybin Publish time 26-11-2019 01:58:12

If he goes it'll be because he was either complicit in liaising with the Russians in trying to influence the Presidential election, or because he tried to prevent an investigation into the extent to which the Russians tried to influence the Presidential election.

Not because of the establishment.

Stuart Wright Publish time 26-11-2019 01:58:13

In fact he has done very little of what he said he would do.
Trump's promises before and after the election - BBC News

The Dude Publish time 26-11-2019 01:58:13

He's certainly a fast learner.

rancidpunk Publish time 26-11-2019 01:58:14

Pre schoolers are a sponge for knowledge

Pacifico Publish time 26-11-2019 01:58:15

It's only been just over a 100 day's, so give him a chance. He's getting quotes for the wall, he's produced a tax cut budget, he's started the process of renegotiating NAFTA, he's produced a travel ban that is going through the court's, he's scrapped TPP and started to replace Obamacare.

Oh, and played a lot of golfdata:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7

EarthRod Publish time 26-11-2019 01:58:16

So tax cut budget?

It's a sheet of paper saying he wants to cut taxes.

Toko Black Publish time 26-11-2019 01:58:17

You mean he hasn't fleshed out the details?

Naughty boy!

Cliff Publish time 26-11-2019 01:58:18

Really ?
If the somewhat arbitrary decision to have electoral colleges rather than the actual public vote decide who is president, then he wouldn't be.
The fact that there are different options and structures available to determine the outcome of a 'democratic vote' and the distribution of power/seats etc afterwards means it is difficult to establish which and what is a fair and reasonable outcome from any democratic process.
Clearly there are pro's and con's, practicalities and compromises in any democratic voting and framework with differing opinions on which is best, fairest or provides the most workable outcome.

One could argue it would be a bad day for democracy if he goes, but equally there are equally valid arguments that it was a bad day for democracy if he stays or was even elected in the first place.

Too subjective to declare it definitively good or bad oneway or the other.

rustybin Publish time 26-11-2019 01:58:19

Every country has a different system of voting. We hear the same story too often these days that had the votes been counted in a different way, then say UKIP would have loads of seats. Or the SNP would have fewer seats.

We have to accept the system in place at the time, and accept the result. Change it by all means later, with a new system - no problem. But after a vote, we can't cry and complain that if the system had been different a different result would have been thrown up.
The funny thing about Brexit was that people complained that 48/52 was so close we should have remained! Which is stretching things a bit.

He might be a bad President, that is subject to debate, but he won.

The establishment, the media, just about everyone and his dog- who could get on the TV- were against him before he even won. When he did, they didn't let up and now they have the ''Russia helped him win"' or he divulged "secrets to the Russians"'lent on the investigation" etc etc.

By the way, before you misunderstand my post as support for Trump it is not. It is just sad that a democratically elected Present might lose office because some gov agency, will eventually, will nail him for something or other.

Toko Black Publish time 26-11-2019 01:58:20

We need a president who's above the law, above criticism and exempt from prosecution.... What do we call those again?
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