krish Publish time 26-11-2019 01:19:21

More whataboutery? -I suppose you think all Muslims are to blame for 9/11..

Trollslayer Publish time 26-11-2019 01:19:22

Now you're being a dick.

krish Publish time 26-11-2019 01:19:23

No surprise.

Pacifico Publish time 26-11-2019 01:19:24

Btw, latest ep of Iain Dale's Book Club podcast has Anita Anand discussing her new book 'The Patient Assassin: A True Tale of Massacre, Revenge and the Raj' about Udham Singh, who in London in 1939 assassinated Michael O'Dwyer, the Lieutenant Governor of the Punjab in 1919.
Iain Dale’s Book Club: Chapter 36 : Anita Anand on Apple PodcastsEDIT ... Also, last night, on the centenary, this doc from Sathnam Sanghera aired on Channel 4
The Massacre That Shook the Empire - All 4

krish Publish time 26-11-2019 01:19:25

I'm not the one suggesting that it's ok for the Indian Government to massacre civilians because some terrorist blew up an aeroplane

nabby Publish time 26-11-2019 01:19:25

No you're the dick suggesting I was

Pacifico Publish time 26-11-2019 01:19:25

This comment from another forum puts it as well as I ever could.

The people responsible back then acted for the state, and were never disowned by that state. Hence the "immortal" state is liable for their deeds.

If some unit of the British army commits a war crime today, e.g. in Iraq, you are (I hope) not opposed to the state paying compensation to the families of the victim and apologising for the crimes of the state's agents (i.e. the soldiers). Or would you then also claim that only the soldiers themselves should apologise, and only they should be made to pay compensation?

If you want to "inherit" all the good stuff from your country's past (like its infrastructure, permanent seat on the UN's security council, colonial possessions in Gibraltar and elsewhere) then you also have to accept "inheriting" the bad stuff, and the responsibility for that. This includes your government taking the blame and apologising for the country as a whole.

But you cannot brag about how "you" (allegedly) "saved France and Poland from Hitler, so they should be grateful and more accomodating towards us today" while refusing the same responsibility for the less savoury bits of your country's history.

Bl4ckGryph0n Publish time 26-11-2019 01:19:26

So why bring it into the conversation if it has nothing to do with anything?data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7

Sonic67 Publish time 26-11-2019 01:19:26

Fair points made. Is there any time limit associated with that?

Sonic67 Publish time 26-11-2019 01:19:28

The world owes India a lot.

BBC News - Cows to planes: Indian ministers who rewrote scientific history
Indian ministers who rewrote science

Squirrels helped with bridging, plastic surgery, only cows, inhale and exhale oxygen.

India scientists dismiss Einstein theories

Stem cell research.

How did we conquer a country that has had nuclear weapons for a 100,000 years?
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