tickedon Publish time 25-11-2019 21:54:56

I don't "support" Boris's deal but I don't oppose it either - too early to tell and so I've not voted. Once I've seen the actual legal text, I may accept it as a way to get Brexit over the line. But there was a lot wrong with May's deal beyond the backstop, and where there have been some suggestions these are also being dealt with (e.g. ongoing alignment with EU laws, state aid limits etc.) it isn't clear yet.

And @PatMrex has an excellent summary of other issues with May's deal too.

psikey Publish time 25-11-2019 21:54:56

You do know its a politicians main requisite to be able to lie (especially convincingly)? Also, reply without answering questions.

Applies to 75% of them anyway.

When opposition/media put Politian's on the spot about sensitive questions they should just say the truth sometimes as in "I'm not telling you my Brexit strategy, the EU do read our news you know!!"

psikey Publish time 25-11-2019 21:54:57

Plus male ones being as randy as fu**

How many more !

Does that mean he can't vote in parliament ?
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tapzilla2k Publish time 25-11-2019 21:54:57

Johnson will probably find a way to spin not leaving on the 31st of October. Question is if the UK and EU make compromises on Johnson's deal, will Johnson extend to get it done ? Lots of other bills have to be passed to make Brexit work within the UK's constitution and legal framework. Technically you could get it all done in 10 days flat, but I doubt MP's would allow it. As they'll want to debate each bill on it's own merits and make changes where necessary.

psikey Publish time 25-11-2019 21:54:57

More like he has a way to ask for the extension and then neutralise it with something else.

Rasczak Publish time 25-11-2019 21:54:57

Not sure why you directed that reply to me?I think it was Pacifico you want?

My argument was Johnson was fundamentally dishonest but his supporters accept that (perhaps sharing the same assumption as you have) and therefore he won't be "toast" if Britain extends in the EU.

Anyway, @psikey and @Pacifico I think this is matter for the two of you.

Pacifico Publish time 25-11-2019 21:54:58

Cant see it. Brexit supporters have given the tories the benefit of the doubt over the last 3 years, all the while May was continually promising that we would leave on 31st March. When she reneged on that promise support for the Brexit Party ballooned until Boris took over with his leave on the 31st Oct promise. If Boris proves to be as untrustworthy as May then those supporters are not going to give the Tories a third bite at the cherry.
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