deaf cat Publish time 25-11-2019 21:20:53

XTA DP448 Phase Filter - Can You Explain what/how/why it works?

Hi,

I have got interested in the phase of the woofer and tweeter, since I switched to active speakers and vocals went way way back in the sound stage.It was suggested I switched the   & - on the tweeters, 180deg phase shift, to see if that made any difference.To my surprise, vocals were now emanating from between the speakers, a much better place to have them data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7

So I understand the XTA box can phase shift in steps of 2deg, this interests me because at the moment I only have a 0 and 180deg options (swapping speaker cables over) I am wondering if by playing with the phase shift in much smaller steps, I may be able to bring the vocals just slightly in front of the speakers - now that would be Fab!

It looks like, in having a quick play with the audiocore software, the phase filter can be activated at a particular frequency, or a number of different frequencies...Am I understanding this right?

I was thinking punch in a figure of 170deg and as if by magic 170deg would then be the phase shift, rather than 180, but no it looks more complicated than that, hence this post... help... ;o)

Thanks for reading, any pointers or thoughts appreciated,
DC

Cliff Publish time 25-11-2019 21:20:54

Generally speaking, if the speakers are in phase you can identify a point source in the centre. 180 degrees (one reversed), the point source disappears and the sound appears 'spacious' even extending beyond the speakers.

Now,if you have say the left speaker a few degrees trailing the right, you will hear that the sound has moved to the right. A phase shift actually moves the sound. The ear can pin point it in a much more defined way than, say amplitude with a simple pan pot.

To change the way the sound appears (and you still want it in the middle) will require some more complex DSP.

deaf cat Publish time 25-11-2019 21:20:55

Interesting, thanks for that.

Things have got spacious now I have tried 72dB crossover slopes, not sure how to correct the phase shifts due to the steep slopes yet though :-0

all good fun data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7
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