niceguysean Publish time 28-11-2019 00:56:32

New System Recommendations Required

Earlier this year I bought myself a Bluesound Vault 2i, ripped a lot but not all of my CD's, and imported everything else I had on iTunes. I also acquired a pefectly functioning 1970's Technics turntable. I've found myself listening to stuff I haven't listened to in ages, and well, you know where this is going....
I now want to replace my ageing Philips system and Lake speakers with a new Amp, Speakers and CD player. I also just purchased a Samsung Frame 2019 TV.
So far, I'm leaning towards :
Amp - Yamaha R-N803D
CD Player - Pioneer UDP-LX500. This then covers both CD and DVD / Blu Ray requirements (space is a major issue).

Anyone got any thoughts on the above, and recommendations for Speakers? I was looking at the KEF R3's, or even the LS50 wireless at a push. I may want to listen to the TV through the speakers.

Any advice will be gratefully received.

gibbsy Publish time 28-11-2019 00:56:33

I have the Pioneer LX500. It's a very good CD player as well as having good SACD credentials. It also has the ability to use RCA analogue in a direct function if you wish to experiment on the difference in qualities. As for the speakers I did audition the old KEF R300s against the LS50s and preferred the overall abilities of the R300s as they tend to dig deeper than the LS50s. I strongly recommend you listen to both in an audition.

Paul7777x Publish time 28-11-2019 00:56:34

A stab at a budget would be useful for suggestions, as would an idea of your listening room size. data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7

niceguysean Publish time 28-11-2019 00:56:36

I have about another €2.5K all in....

gibbsy Publish time 28-11-2019 00:56:37

The LX500 is going to take at least a third of the budget if not more, just under a £1000 here in the UK.

niceguysean Publish time 28-11-2019 00:56:38

Lowest price I found was €899, but yes, a big chunk of what's left of my budget.

Paul7777x Publish time 28-11-2019 00:56:39

It’s not even remotely worth spending that much unless your budget was four times the size.

Paul7777x Publish time 28-11-2019 00:56:40

I’d suggest you consider this combination or something similar for your budget.

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Hixs Publish time 28-11-2019 00:56:41

A few other high quality bluray players to consider

Oppo 103/105
UB900 (4k)
Marantz UD5007

These can all be found used for a good price.

BlueWizard Publish time 28-11-2019 00:56:42

Without looking it up, that is about £1500. That leaves another £1000 for a pair of speakers.

You can buy LS50, but little to no point in buying LS50-Wireless, when you have a Receiver with Streaming.

I recently heard the R-Series Bookshelf, and was very impressed.

The Kef R3 has amazing bass for a speaker that small, and it was still controlled and clear.

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Depending on how tight the space is, you might consider the Floorstanding R5 which are not really huge speakers -

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That eats your entire budget and a bit more depending on how far you want to take it.

Bookshelf are not going to have deep bass and impact like a larger floorstanding speaker, but they serve many people for many purposes, and as I've said, I was very impressed with the R3 for a bookshelf speaker. But your expectations have to be realistic relative to what you are buying or at least looking at.

Yamaha RN803
Pioneer UDP-LX500 (a bit expensive, but highly praised, and multi-function player)
Kef R3 Bookshelf

Come close to your budget, and should make a very good system.

However, it is up to you to determine if that systems does what you need done.

Steve/bluewizard
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