raduv1 Publish time 26-11-2019 01:59:03

Selfish I know but my mortgage ends in October and I am hoping for interest rate rises for our savings .

Bugger this means that I'm officially old bugger status data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7.

Trollslayer Publish time 26-11-2019 01:59:03

We've known for a while data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7

Toko Black Publish time 26-11-2019 01:59:04

OR, there are plenty of the left leaning and centrists that don't want to see 'big business' fail or bring down people who have worked hard to make a living for their family and themselves so that the workshy and layabouts can have it easy....
.... but recognise the facts that:

i) there are severe imbalances in the distribution of wealth both within individual societies and globally.
There is strong evidence to suggest that a considerable amount of crime and problems are exacerbated by the gap between those that have and those that don't.
Having no gap tends to lead to a lack of motivation to achieve, while having a large gap tends toraises the level of crime and reduce the general happiness and wellbeing of the population as a whole.
ergo, there is for any society a optimum gap between those at the top and those at the bottom where motivation is sufficiently high enough to grow the economy while crime is low and health and wellbeing are high enough to encourage people to spend, travel, and take less time of sick.

ii) business, corporations and markets are essentially amoral and as such do not act in the best interests of mankind without being regulated, reigned in and placed under certain controls and restrictions. That is not to say some regulations or controls are poor or mistakes, but that does not equate to regulations and controls being bad as long as they are well thought out and/or managed.
With the right regulations and controls, businesses and markets can thrive, bring prosperity and further advance societies and the wellbeing of mankind - a lack of regulations and controls can and historically has led to societies being decimated, human suffering and the strongest few accumulating everything.

iii) society needs a broad mix of personalities and types to run smoothly, efficiently and for the benefit of all both for it's health and it's wealth.
We need movers and shakers as well as more altruistic types - we need those that invent and imagine and those that are content to just work as a means to keep their family happy and healthy.
The markets however tend to value and reward the movers and shakers at the expense of the altruists because the market's 'system' of effort and reward does not consider the greater systems of society that actually allows it to exist and thrive in the first place.
That being providing consumers, keeping them healthy, providing them with education and training, keeping them safe, putting out their fires, maintaining their roads and transport links.
Without all that, markets are starved.

apolloa Publish time 26-11-2019 01:59:05

An interview that highlights why they are controlling the borders as they do, might make you think twice, the laws the law, they have entry points, use them! Or face arrest like everyone else. Watch the whole interview.

Bl4ckGryph0n Publish time 26-11-2019 01:59:06

Be careful now that doesn’t fit with the narrative data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7

But yes, it’s totally a point that all around the world is happening. People know the rules very well, they do this on purpose. They are users who use and abuse the liberal compassion. It is similar to what happens with illegal immigration to the U.K.they lie about their age, they hide their real travel documents, they are bypassing the rules knowingly and with premeditation because there are no other legal grounds.

It is a real shame that this abuse of goodwill is taking place as that impact those who really need help.

Toko Black Publish time 26-11-2019 01:59:07

It's a win win for those who support minimizing the number of people immigrating into a county - support, dodge, or stay silent upon issues relating to increasingly Kafka-esk laws, rules and bureaucracy for those trying to legally enter a country then use the attempts at circumvention of those rules due to a frustrating lack of progress or fairness as evidence that these people are breaking the rules and therefore should be automatically disqualified from any consideration.

Bl4ckGryph0n Publish time 26-11-2019 01:59:08

Why so negative? As the border patrol agent says, and the same is true here in this country. Change the laws if you want it differently.

It is a choice whether to enter legally or illegally. It is just utter daft to try and enter illegally when you can enter legally. Sometimes people 'think' they improve their chance to getting a visa by lying on their application and present themselves more favourable than they are, sorry that is just very misguided and will cost you a cooling off period.

Just be honest, if you have grounds to apply for asylum then do so.

rustybin Publish time 26-11-2019 01:59:09

Trump proved quite useful this morning. I printed out a selection of his Tweets for my 8-9 year olds and they had to correct the SPaG for him. They absolutely loved it.
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