What a load of twaddle, destruction, you think another European war is coming the way you talk, its not. People want to make their own decision not have some faceless useless politician decide that they can live on peanuts when that faceless politician gets more in expenses for a couple of days than they have to live on for a month.
There is absolutely no proof that there will be job loses if/when we leave.
True
And look what is now happening in the southern states of the U.S.
When you silence people people for long enough, there is a tipping point!
Although I have no issues with Gay Marriage, Confederate Flag, etc. I do feel sorry for those that become oppressed in the name of freeing others from oppression.
I agree, and I think the EU could successfully break up, it's just the Eurocrats want their NeoNazi gravy train
Just heard that the pound is getting stronger and could increase interest rates.... Bye bye my house!
Who wants to see its destruction? I know those on the left do, see below.
So you think the Eastern Europeans are the peasants now? They are the present workforce according to you.
This is exactly the problem the Socialist Labour party has with the EU right now. Business leaders are able to import cheap labour from the EU rather than pay local workers a decent wage or give them decent conditions.
Yet you agree with it.
Socialist Labour Party Policies - Environment
The Socialist Labour Party is totally committed to complete withdrawal from the European Union, or Common Market as it was originally called. That is the only way Britain can begin to regain control of its economy, sovereignty and its political powers.
The European Union is a capitalist club that makes it easy for multi-national companies to exploit workers throughout its member states, while the sovereignty of those states is increasingly meaningless, and we are all at the mercy of a vast, faceless bureaucracy.
You support this capitalist club comrade? I thought you wanted old labour back? Old labour has always been against the EU.
I see that Tsipras is saying he wants a no vote in the referendum so he can go back into negotiations with a stronger hand. He is convinced that he can gain more concessions. Meanwhile, the EU are saying that a no vote will mean that Greece will need to leave the Euro, and possibly the EU as well, neither of which Tsipras apparently wants. I wonder who will blink first.
My suggestion is that there will be a no vote, and then there will be some minor concession on debt relief, which Tsipras will be able to sell to his people.
Sound familiar Mr Cameron?
They must be a bunch of right wing Nazi's and UKIP supporters...... data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7
Edit: And a suitable quote from the right of politics....
“A nation that cannot control its borders is not a nation.”
― Ronald Reagan
There's a lot on it if you look, it's down to the EU that the postal service was privatised.
John King: The left wing case for leaving the EU
Despite the denials by our political and media elite, the most important issue of the 2015 election was Britain’s membership of the European Union. Nearly four million votes went to Ukip, a party that has been consistently abused and dismissed by our controllers, with much of that support coming from former Labour voters, while big numbers of people backed the little-loved Conservatives.
Our membership of the EU undermined the major debates and warped most of the policies being put forward in the build-up to the election. The EU will influence the future of the NHS just as it helped smooth Tory privatisation of the Post Office and the organisational break-up of the railways; it is in tune with austerity and drives a larger and more deadly version in the eurozone; it escalates problems linked to housing, work, wages and education; creates worry and stirs up anger and threatens people’s sense of self. A lazy acceptance of establishment propaganda and a fear of being branded “xenophobic” have silenced many liberals and left-wingers. And yet the EU is driven by big business. This is a very corporate coup.
It is essential to understand where the EU is heading. The mission? To create a centralised superstate. As the former European Commission president José Manuel Barroso said in 2007: “. . . I like to compare the EU as a creation to the organisation of empire. We have the dimension of empire.” While there have been idealists involved and progressive laws made along the way, at its core it is undemocratic and distant, a threat to all those living in its shadow. However sweet the propaganda, it is a tool for multinationals, another part of the globalisation process.
A single European nation suits the US government, its multinationals and its military. One leader is a lot easier to deal with than many. The same goes for a single currency. This is clear in moves by the EU and the US to impose the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP), which will allow the corporations of both blocs the chance to exploit each other’s markets, smoothing out “obstacles” in the process. The NHS would be targeted by US health-care companies and trade union rights threatened. Negotiations to bring in TTIP have been taking place in secret. There is no voting involved, no pretence at democracy, little proper coverage by the media. The main parties are broadly supportive. With TTIP comes the Investor-State Dispute Settlement (ISDS) system, whereby business can take governments to court if its profits are infringed upon. This is mind-blowing stuff, but our politicians say nothing.
Last year saw the death of two genuinely left-wing figures within a matter of days in Tony Benn and Bob Crow. These were honest men who refused to bend to the group mind. They were idealists and knew where the EU was leading us. In later life Benn was patronised as a well-meaning crank when he tried to talk seriously about the EU. Crow died young and his dream of a left-wing, anti-EU party will be harder to achieve now he is gone. But this is what Britain needs. Urgently.
Etc. There's more on the link.
I guess people must have something similar after WW1 ."Germany start another war? what a load of twaddle . they are far too weak.We made sure of that with the armistice conditions"
People do want to make decisions for themselves but they also want to live in peace and relative harmonywith their neighbours
Nothing of the sort was said after WW1, WW2 was always on the cards it just took longer to come about than many people thought.
You have absolutely no chance of any war in Europe just because a country or 2 want to leave.
Really?
Ferdinand Foch: "This is not a peace. It is an armistice for twenty years".
WWII started twenty years and two months later. In fact you can read more here:
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